Legislature(1999 - 2000)

02/23/2000 01:50 PM House FIN

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HOUSE BILL NO. 259                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
"An Act relating to a parent's eligibility to be                                                                                
represented by the public defender before and during                                                                            
the probable cause and temporary placement hearing that                                                                         
is held after the state takes emergency custody of a                                                                            
child."                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE JOHN COGHILL testified in support of HB 259.                                                                     
He explained that HB 259 is the result of a meeting with                                                                        
agency representatives in Fairbanks, last spring. He noted                                                                      
that concerns were expressed that some persons are unable to                                                                    
obtain legal representation for the 48-hour child in need of                                                                    
assistance (CINA) hearing. The Division of Family and Youth                                                                     
Services is required to hold a CINA hearing within 48 hours                                                                     
after a child is taken into custody. The ability to receive                                                                     
services from the Alaska Public Defender Agency is not                                                                          
uniform across the state. The legislation would provide for                                                                     
representation. Provision would be made for indigent                                                                            
determination or pro-rated pay back for services.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
BLAIR MCCUNE, PUBLIC DEFENDER'S OFFICE testified via                                                                            
teleconference in support of HB 259. He observed that the                                                                       
legislation would allow the Agency to start their work on                                                                       
CINA cases earlier. He stressed the importance of the                                                                           
language "may be represented, pending a determination of                                                                        
indigency" on page 1, line 7. He explained that the Agency                                                                      
must be careful not to enter a situation were a conflict of                                                                     
interest exists. The Alaska Public Defender Agency would                                                                        
want to take the more serious case if multiple charges were                                                                     
involved. He did not anticipate additional costs with the                                                                       
legislation.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Bunde noted that the language is permissive.  He                                                                     
questioned if the Alaska Public Defender Agency would be                                                                        
liable if they were unable to immediately respond to a case,                                                                    
due to their caseload. Mr. McCune noted that they would not                                                                     
be liable and added that the Agency is required to represent                                                                    
zealously and competently when they begin working on a case.                                                                    
He expressed confidence that cases would be well represented                                                                    
and stated that his concern is with possible conflicts of                                                                       
interest that could arise when a more serious charge is                                                                         
involved in the same case. The Alaska Public Defender Agency                                                                    
has not had sufficient funding for staff to be on-call. Vice                                                                    
Chair Bunde clarified that his concern would be that the                                                                        
Agency not be in violation if they did not having an                                                                            
attorney available to respond to a case.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
HARRY NIEHAUS, GUARDIANS OF FAMILY RIGHTS, NORTH POLE                                                                           
testified via teleconference. He observed that page 1, line                                                                     
6 refers to a "person who is the natural or adoptive                                                                            
parent." He questioned why legal guardian was not included.                                                                     
He stressed the need to include guardians in the                                                                                
legislation. He referred to legislation that would allow a                                                                      
continuance in cases where a public defender is not                                                                             
available.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Representative Coghill noted that the question of a                                                                             
continuance would be addressed in other legislation and felt                                                                    
that it was out of the scope of HB 259. Parents can ask for                                                                     
a continuance under current law. He indicated that he would                                                                     
be willing to consider the addition of guardians.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MARCI SCHMIDT, MATSU testified via teleconference in support                                                                    
of HB 259. She emphasized that it is crucial for parents in                                                                     
CINA hearings to have representation. She maintained that                                                                       
many parents do not receive representation because they do                                                                      
not know that it is available. She noted that there are not                                                                     
sufficient private attorneys available to take on CINA                                                                          
cases.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Bunde questioned if the House Judiciary Committee                                                                    
discussed guardians or the need to broaden the legislation                                                                      
to cover those with temporary custody of children.                                                                              
Representative Coghill responded that the addition of                                                                           
guardians or those with temporary custody was not discussed                                                                     
in the House Judiciary Committee.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. McCune observed the state statute does not contain                                                                          
specific language, but refers to court rules: "an indigent                                                                      
person who is under formal charge of having committed a                                                                         
serious crime, or if entitled to representation under the                                                                       
Supreme Court delinquency or child in need of aid rules". He                                                                    
observed that there can be problems relating to the addition                                                                    
of guardians because there can be temporary guardianship                                                                        
where a parent is out of town in addition to legal                                                                              
guardians. Temporary guardians may not be included under the                                                                    
rules. He did not have a suggestion for language to add long                                                                    
term guardianship.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman noted that the Administration does                                                                     
not have a policy relating to guardians and theorized that,                                                                     
if there were a problem, there would be a policy. Mr. McCune                                                                    
explained that the court system decides that a child should                                                                     
be represented and appoints the Alaska Public Defender                                                                          
Agency to represent them. He did not think that the Agency                                                                      
should be in the situation of representing short-term                                                                           
guardians.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
Vice Chair Bunde questioned if there is a legal definition                                                                      
of "legal guardian" as opposed to a short-term guardian such                                                                    
as a baby sitter.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Representative Austerman spoke in support of the                                                                                
legislation. He suggested that the issue be researched.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Niehaus clarified that his concern is in regards to long                                                                    
term guardians and noted that the issue is addressed in                                                                         
Court Rule 22.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HB 259 was heard and HELD in Committee for further                                                                              
consideration.                                                                                                                  

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